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"George should know"??????
Message from George in Bandon Oregon
well, one can always hope I should !!! that said, think it's very probably a "true" holly (not a "California holly"/toyon, LOL) and most likely either ilex x altclerensis "wilsonii" OR the rather similar I. x "san jose hybrid".
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